tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post5902645307925623471..comments2023-07-27T10:35:11.432-04:00Comments on Thats what Team Initial says: Is honesty really the best policy?Staboskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09743446249473898656noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-7735580182497790422008-07-29T21:11:00.000-04:002008-07-29T21:11:00.000-04:00my thoughts on sports in modern society is going t...my thoughts on sports in modern society is going to be the topic of an upcoming post, so don't really bother with an in-depth response to that last commenttermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818365043464367568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-13328163859668483992008-07-29T21:10:00.000-04:002008-07-29T21:10:00.000-04:00i'll try to address most of the points made in the...i'll try to address most of the points made in the comments with as little words as possible.<BR/><BR/>running Grand would be easier than you think. i honestly think that without my mom working there, the company would fall apart. i make this point because the CEO is basically a fucking idiot, yet he "runs" the company. this is a counterpoint to nate's statement that "people are getting paid the big bucks for a reason." this statement is 95% true, but there are always idiots out there who don't deserve their current job.<BR/><BR/>in terms of most of the specific examples, i would say my post was a more hypothetical "if everyone told the truth." i STILL believe a person should tell the truth as much as possible and will almost always end up benefiting you. sure there are small examples here and there, but for the most part, it will. bringing up CS is a good point, because I easily could have said "man the dude RANDOMLY turned around when i wasn't looking." i didn't, because honestly lying about it or not really wouldn't have mattered at all. i bet i'll never try it again though<BR/><BR/>you did make good points with the lottery ticket and such though. lying to advance in your job will eventually hit a point of diminshing returns. people eventually see through bullshit when you are given more responsibility. then you get fired. if you are honest, you are accountable for your mistakes, you learn from them, and you develop as an employee. if you lie and succeed, you never learn how to do things right, you eventually fuck something huge up and no one forgives you.<BR/><BR/>and to respond to the Jordan comment: i could ultimately argue that his success in basketball was worse for society than if he never made it. think of all the young kids who would have focused more in school to become productive then spend all their childhood at basketball courts (thinking they could BE LIKE MIKE) to end up not making it, then robbing you because they have no other means of income.termhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818365043464367568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-45592317629651409832008-07-29T16:30:00.000-04:002008-07-29T16:30:00.000-04:00in the real world where there is always someone el...in the real world where there is always someone else that is going to lie, you pretty much have to yourself just to keep up. i was really just taking the question more hypothetically, where if everyone told the truth things would probably be better overall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-12936819008457549232008-07-29T16:07:00.000-04:002008-07-29T16:07:00.000-04:00see what happens when your honest, i share some pe...see what happens when your honest, i share some personal insight...and the blog becomes the xep/boon blast prime blog....lying is the answer to everything<BR/><BR/>basically i think most people would lie if you could benefit yourself and not directly harm someone else. lets say for a crazy example, someones comes up to you and says, hey i think this is the winning lottery ticket you just bought, I found it on the ground by your car. You didn't buy the ticket, are you going to tell the person you didn't? I wouldntPoormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07577450504336433138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-53422337592705114942008-07-29T14:45:00.000-04:002008-07-29T14:45:00.000-04:00What if you are going to lie, not for you but your...What if you are going to lie, not for you but your company??? Example, today we had a visit from the fire marshall at one of our warehouses. He said your backup fire engine pump doesn't work....did I know this, yes, did the company and owner know this yes. Did we fix it no. So what did I do in the company's best intrest, I said we were unaware. Now if I would have told the truth we would have recieved a fine, not a fine I would have had to pay, and its not a problem I would have gotten in trouble with as the owner knew about it as well. But what did I do in the best intrest of the company, said we did not know about it and we would get it taken care of. The owner of the company the other day told me regarding a quote we got to get some work done, tell the company we got a lower bid from someone else (which we did not) and see if they will come down. Its a fine line you have to walk.Staboskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09743446249473898656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-25466294765904412582008-07-29T13:56:00.000-04:002008-07-29T13:56:00.000-04:00if you want a real example of where lying is good....if you want a real example of where lying is good....<BR/><BR/>boy tries to play basketball. boy sucks at basketball. father tells boy he sucks. boy has no self-esteem and never plays basketball again...OR...<BR/><BR/>boy tries to play basketball. boy sucks at basketball. father tells boy he is good (which is a lie). boy is encouraged to keep playing basketball. boy gets better and starts pwning faces. boy turns into man. man's name is michael jordan.<BR/><BR/>if father would have told the truth, we would never have had best basketball player of all time.booncakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718147238908529061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-11911387171427322032008-07-29T13:54:00.000-04:002008-07-29T13:54:00.000-04:00Donald Trump lies to this day, you think he doesn'...Donald Trump lies to this day, you think he doesn't? I'll pull and example from a season from the apprentice which he said was a "great move." The teams were selling something, and they wanted to get bullhorns to get attention from people passing by. Well a radio shack had like 4 in stock...so this team ordered them over the phone and told them they would be there soon. The other team got the idea and then called the same store, they said they were holding them. This team then went to the radio shack, lied to the store workers, said they were the other team, and got their bullhorns...this team ended up with the win. When in the boardroom the one team complained, Trump said it was a good move.Staboskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09743446249473898656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-12035086639824486292008-07-29T13:52:00.000-04:002008-07-29T13:52:00.000-04:00if you told the truth, then parents would have bee...if you told the truth, then parents would have been mad = parents would have complained to your boss = your boss fires you = someone more competent takes over your job = new person orders future jerseys on time = everybody is happy = honesty is best policybooncakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718147238908529061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-65910108532508380292008-07-29T13:36:00.000-04:002008-07-29T13:36:00.000-04:00well the argument kind of goes back to the mention...well the argument kind of goes back to the mentioning of Trump and the other CEO's. Sure they are honest now, like when criticizing people and what not, but were they honest when they were advancing up their positions? My guess would be no. Fact of the matter is that most CEO's and high ranking officials have done some sort of lying to get where they are at. Doesn't mean it's something extreme like Enron, but dishonesty nonetheless. <BR/><BR/>Let me use another example of when I have lied for what I think was the better of everyone. When our T-ball season started, I ordered the jerseys late because I basically just forgot about it. Granted the company could have finished them on time if they pushed it, but it was my fault none the less and we didn't have jerseys for the first week. When asked by the parents where the jerseys was, I simply said there was a printing error when the shirts were being processed and that we were fixing them and we would have them next week. Not one person got mad when they heard this reasoning, but I guarantee if I would have said, well i forgot to order them on time, this would not have been the casePoormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07577450504336433138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-10047249529017975202008-07-29T13:00:00.000-04:002008-07-29T13:00:00.000-04:00hahahaand prime's argument just reinforces your po...hahaha<BR/><BR/>and prime's argument just reinforces your point term. if we all told the truth things might be better, instead we have nubs like prime lying about their experience and getting jobs they dont deserve<BR/><BR/>thats not specifically aimed at you of course prime, but thanks for the exampleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-22880613492750471722008-07-29T09:34:00.000-04:002008-07-29T09:34:00.000-04:00If we were all in charge of Grand, and boski could...If we were all in charge of Grand, and boski could fire every employee he felt wasn't up to par (my guess would be over 75% would be gone) and re-hire without any BS laws (Affirmative Action), I think the company would improve vastly.<BR/><BR/>I'll throw a different point of view out at the honestly/power topic. While I agree everything would be better if people were honest, the fact is lying and telling people what they want to hear if the quickest way to get to the top. For example, when I interviewed for my current job, I didn't say that when I worked for the city of VB all I did was watch basketball and softball games and record scores afterwards. So I basically made up what I did to make it seem important, same with Cypress. Another example is our current Assistant Recreation Director here. He is basically the dumbest and least qualified person for this spot ever, but he spends his enitre day sucking up to our Director and City manager, basicalyl lying about all of this work and connections he has made. This is pretty much a completely different scenario, but a point nonetheless. Sadly honesty can hold you back at times as well, while lying is the way to the top.<BR/><BR/>And on a more humorous note on topic, I feel I held back my honesty two nights ago during our triple OT match. So I would like to say now, term, your knife attempt in a tie match with 3 or 4 rds left was the FUCKIN DUMBEST CS MANEAUVER IN HISTORYPoormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07577450504336433138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-48237901430219572852008-07-29T09:17:00.000-04:002008-07-29T09:17:00.000-04:00Do I think Grand could be a better company if I ra...Do I think Grand could be a better company if I ran it? Fuck yea. As long as Debs is still around I don't need to be mean the guy. I can schmooze everyone. <BR/><BR/>To the OP it is a fine line to walk. Me who tends to lean on being nice on the business side do feel that sometimes I should be more honest. That withsaid however, I feel that my "niceness" has also given me an edge. I've got people who i've called in specail favors for the company, I've had AC people on one of the stores at 10pm with fashlights fixing something. The plumbers have came to my personal house to fix a problem and charged be a discounted fee because of my business relationship I have with them. Now if someone fucks shit up, they have to be alerted. But you have to be tactful (BOBO JONES) with it.Staboskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09743446249473898656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-15721985083729076272008-07-29T08:38:00.000-04:002008-07-29T08:38:00.000-04:00Do I think Grand would be more successful if I ran...Do I think Grand would be more successful if I ran it? <BR/><BR/>i'd say no. people are getting paid the big bucks for a reason...b/c it's a hard job. i can't be out of school for 2 years and expect to run a company that would affect hundreds of people's lives/families. i think to run a company you need 3 things: 1) desire 2)smarts and 3)experience. right now, i say i'd have none of those 3. no desire for furniture, no smarts on furniture (i.e. cycle periods, fashion, economy in relation to buying homes/furniture) . and no experience...i have trouble regulating 2 noobs under me now, let alone trying to run an entire company.<BR/><BR/>i think you have the right idea and mindset to succeed, but we also have to be realistic (i dont know if that was a hypothetical or not).booncakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718147238908529061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-66446854629469392032008-07-29T06:46:00.000-04:002008-07-29T06:46:00.000-04:00the italics section of the blog should have had th...the italics section of the blog should have had the font sized increased as well<BR/><BR/>also, my question wasn't necessarily if you could run Grand, but do you think we all could (people who read this blog) if we all were in it together. This would eliminate some of the concern you have about business knowledgetermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818365043464367568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-12801151974672264322008-07-28T23:15:00.000-04:002008-07-28T23:15:00.000-04:00Do I think Grand would be more successful if I ran...Do I think Grand would be more successful if I ran it? Short answer is no, not with my current lack of business knowledge. I do on the other hand think I have the type of personality and capability to run the business better if I knew that Grand would be mine sometime in the future.<BR/><BR/>As for being able to read minds, I'd take that power in a heartbeat. For people that I actually cared about I'd know what they were thinking, so it would be easy to avoid doing things they didnt like. So really they wouldnt have much reason to say bad things about me in their heads. It would also work with people you didnt like..you'd know exactly which buttons to push to make them mad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-81084640910336131222008-07-28T23:00:00.000-04:002008-07-28T23:00:00.000-04:00i think you make a good argument, and atm i can't ...i think you make a good argument, and atm i can't really come up with anything against it. but if someone were to ask me "should you always be honest," instinctively i would say no. i'll have to think about it more as to why that would be my answer, but i have a feeling others agree.<BR/><BR/>also, i think some sentences may have been added without your knowledge, specifically it looks like someone edited your post with italic commentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8513525973333565529.post-78118493350316318302008-07-28T22:23:00.000-04:002008-07-28T22:23:00.000-04:00some spelling mistakes and bad grammar, i got tire...some spelling mistakes and bad grammar, i got tired of writing it and didn't proofread before the posttermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818365043464367568noreply@blogger.com